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  • How many attempts?

    Posted by Luke Humphrey on June 7, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    Here’s some starter questions to get the party started:

    1) How many attempts have you made at breaking 4 hours?

    2) What kind of plans/philosophy have you used previously?

    3) Do your other races suggest that a sub 4 is where you should be thinking?

    erica deacon replied 2 weeks, 5 days ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Elbert Schmitt

    Member
    June 7, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    I have made two real attempts at breaking four hours. Unfortunately I feel that both attempts were likely thwarted by weather. In one case, the weather was fine to start but eventually became warm and humid. There was also hydration issues as the course had less hydration than the Track Club would normally provide. This was on top of carrying a handheld bottle that started with a bottle of powerade in it. The other attempt was during the cold and rainy weather which affected me I think. Other races did suggest a race time of four hours was possible. In both cases I used a goal time of just over four hours. I use HMM exclusively. I have used 8 week HMM plans on 50-60 mpw. Which came after summer speed work, rebuilding and half marathon training.

  • erica deacon

    Member
    June 17, 2022 at 4:30 pm

    I’ve only run 1 previous marathon (over a decade ago 🙄), mainly with a just-finish program and mindset (thought i’d be 1 and done but i’m back 11 years later). I entered the NYC marathon through the 9 + 1 route which brought consistency to my running 3 years ago and some respectable 10k paces. I mostly run half marathons (not often races) and then last year ran 3 halves over 3 days with Utah elevation and heat. My one and only marathon plan used cumulative fatigue, but did not include any SOS/Strength work. I’m hoping to run a 4 hour race in September and then use NYC as a fun tourist race.

    Sept is my first time chasing 4 hours – I’m hopeful it will be possible with the HMM plan, based on grit learned in Utah last year, my 10k pace pre covid and a nice fast course.